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 Posted: Wed Feb 3rd, 2010 01:44 pm
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its a shame when we have armed robbers,  people  breaking into homes and business and all our city and county commissioners want to do is examples: new tennis courts; new layout for roads(Riverside's little stupid circle) increasing water rates (riverside ismostly elderly andthe average water billis 48.00 because they are charged Double rates!, voting in their mayor not the allowing, us, the People of Rome vote for this and as always using SPLOST money for anything they deem fit. Why can we not use some of the money to public safely? To enhance our police dept? give them the equipment that is needed to help fight in the increased crime that we our seeing.  oh that's right THE CRIME IS NOT IN THEIR NEIGHBOURHOOD



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I have often thought of putting a sign up in my yard that says "Robbers Welcome" just to get to sling lead at those bast*rds.



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harleylady wrote: its a shame when we have armed robbers,  people  breaking into homes and business and all our city and county commissioners want to do is examples: new tennis courts; new layout for roads(Riverside's little stupid circle) increasing water rates (riverside ismostly elderly andthe average water billis 48.00 because they are charged Double rates!, voting in their mayor not the allowing, us, the People of Rome vote for this and as always using SPLOST money for anything they deem fit. Why can we not use some of the money to public safely? To enhance our police dept? give them the equipment that is needed to help fight in the increased crime that we our seeing.  oh that's right THE CRIME IS NOT IN THEIR NEIGHBOURHOOD

Actually we could reduce the crime rate by half and not have the city spend any money at all.... just do what Kennesaw did and pass an ordinance that says each homeowner is REQUIRED to have a loaded gun in the house! I guarantee a drop in crime....



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mae0618 wrote: harleylady wrote: its a shame when we have armed robbers,  people  breaking into homes and business and all our city and county commissioners want to do is examples: new tennis courts; new layout for roads(Riverside's little stupid circle) increasing water rates (riverside ismostly elderly andthe average water billis 48.00 because they are charged Double rates!, voting in their mayor not the allowing, us, the People of Rome vote for this and as always using SPLOST money for anything they deem fit. Why can we not use some of the money to public safely? To enhance our police dept? give them the equipment that is needed to help fight in the increased crime that we our seeing.  oh that's right THE CRIME IS NOT IN THEIR NEIGHBOURHOOD

Actually we could reduce the crime rate by half and not have the city spend any money at all.... just do what Kennesaw did and pass an ordinance that says each homeowner is REQUIRED to have a loaded gun in the house! I guarantee a drop in crime....

I totally agree, Mae.



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If my memory serves me correctly mae0618, Kennesaw's crime rate dropped 88% within the first year the law was passed...a statistic that sends the anti-gun moon-bats into fits of rage.

In today's world we're expected to be a kinder and gentler nation of people and respect the rights of others who have no problem with sticking a gun in our faces and taking from us whatever they see fit. Same goes with how our soldiers are being expected to fight wars. Compassion and restraint have unquestionably replaced brute force knock-down power and total annihilation of the enemy...violent criminals not withstanding.

As long as this lunacy continues to permeate the mentality of our country and it's leaders, then we're bound to lose both wars against crime and terror.



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mae0618, I am sure most of what you say is in jest. As we both know an ordinance is nothing but a piece of paper signed by a majority of the powers that be in hopes that they can control the general population with it. Ordinances are not Laws and are subject to a more difficult test in terms of enforcement. I have personally challenged more than one ordinance and been successful as most ordinances are not actually legal, only the opinion of a few.

While I do believe that honest people should have the right to own guns. (I have a few myself) the idea that an ordinance could be enacted and (enforced) that says that a person must have a (loaded gun) in their home is not something I would advocate. I do believe they have the ordinance, but I don't believe that they have ever tried to enforce it. If it is a deterrent, it would only be for those uninformed enough to think that whatever group passed this (ordinance) could or would for that matter try to enforce it. Big Joke.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,!!!!

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harleylady wrote: its a shame when we have armed robbers,  people  breaking into homes and business and all our city and county commissioners want to do is examples: new tennis courts; new layout for roads(Riverside's little stupid circle) increasing water rates (riverside ismostly elderly andthe average water billis 48.00 because they are charged Double rates!, voting in their mayor not the allowing, us, the People of Rome vote for this and as always using SPLOST money for anything they deem fit. Why can we not use some of the money to public safely? To enhance our police dept? give them the equipment that is needed to help fight in the increased crime that we our seeing.  oh that's right THE CRIME IS NOT IN THEIR NEIGHBOURHOOD

Actually we could reduce the crime rate by half and not have the city spend any money at all.... just do what Kennesaw did and pass an ordinance that says each homeowner is REQUIRED to have a loaded gun in the house! I guarantee a drop in crime....



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ManinBlack wrote: mae0618, I am sure most of what you say is in jest. As we both know an ordinance is nothing but a piece of paper signed by a majority of the powers that be in hopes that they can control the general population with it. Ordinances are not Laws and are subject to a more difficult test in terms of enforcement. I have personally challenged more than one ordinance and been successful as most ordinances are not actually legal, only the opinion of a few.

While I do believe that honest people should have the right to own guns. (I have a few myself) the idea that an ordinance could be enacted and (enforced) that says that a person must have a (loaded gun) in their home is not something I would advocate. I do believe they have the ordinance, but I don't believe that they have ever tried to enforce it. If it is a deterrent, it would only be for those uninformed enough to think that whatever group passed this (ordinance) could or would for that matter try to enforce it. Big Joke.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,!!!!

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harleylady wrote: its a shame when we have armed robbers,  people  breaking into homes and business and all our city and county commissioners want to do is examples: new tennis courts; new layout for roads(Riverside's little stupid circle) increasing water rates (riverside ismostly elderly andthe average water billis 48.00 because they are charged Double rates!, voting in their mayor not the allowing, us, the People of Rome vote for this and as always using SPLOST money for anything they deem fit. Why can we not use some of the money to public safely? To enhance our police dept? give them the equipment that is needed to help fight in the increased crime that we our seeing.  oh that's right THE CRIME IS NOT IN THEIR NEIGHBOURHOOD

Actually we could reduce the crime rate by half and not have the city spend any money at all.... just do what Kennesaw did and pass an ordinance that says each homeowner is REQUIRED to have a loaded gun in the house! I guarantee a drop in crime....

Probably both good arguments. I don't know the legality but even having an such ordinance gives the impression that the population would abide by it regardless of the truth. I doubt thieves would know that everyone doesn't actually have a gun laying around the house, but the thought that they might just may be enough to make them rethink breaking in to find out. :D

As for home here, they are welcome to show up and see for themselves if they wish.



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Radius wrote: If my memory serves me correctly mae0618, Kennesaw's crime rate dropped 88% within the first year the law was passed...a statistic that sends the anti-gun moon-bats into fits of rage.

In today's world we're expected to be a kinder and gentler nation of people and respect the rights of others who have no problem with sticking a gun in our faces and taking from us whatever they see fit. Same goes with how our soldiers are being expected to fight wars. Compassion and restraint have unquestionably replaced brute force knock-down power and total annihilation of the enemy...violent criminals not withstanding.

As long as this lunacy continues to permeate the mentality of our country and it's leaders, then we're bound to lose both wars against crime and terror.

Also, I heard someone on the radio the other day say, though I do need to look it up to be sure, that the crime rate in Kennesaw has remained at that lower rate.



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stoker wrote: ManinBlack wrote: mae0618, I am sure most of what you say is in jest. As we both know an ordinance is nothing but a piece of paper signed by a majority of the powers that be in hopes that they can control the general population with it. Ordinances are not Laws and are subject to a more difficult test in terms of enforcement. I have personally challenged more than one ordinance and been successful as most ordinances are not actually legal, only the opinion of a few.

While I do believe that honest people should have the right to own guns. (I have a few myself) the idea that an ordinance could be enacted and (enforced) that says that a person must have a (loaded gun) in their home is not something I would advocate. I do believe they have the ordinance, but I don't believe that they have ever tried to enforce it. If it is a deterrent, it would only be for those uninformed enough to think that whatever group passed this (ordinance) could or would for that matter try to enforce it. Big Joke.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,!!!!

mae0618 wrote:
harleylady wrote: its a shame when we have armed robbers,  people  breaking into homes and business and all our city and county commissioners want to do is examples: new tennis courts; new layout for roads(Riverside's little stupid circle) increasing water rates (riverside ismostly elderly andthe average water billis 48.00 because they are charged Double rates!, voting in their mayor not the allowing, us, the People of Rome vote for this and as always using SPLOST money for anything they deem fit. Why can we not use some of the money to public safely? To enhance our police dept? give them the equipment that is needed to help fight in the increased crime that we our seeing.  oh that's right THE CRIME IS NOT IN THEIR NEIGHBOURHOOD

Actually we could reduce the crime rate by half and not have the city spend any money at all.... just do what Kennesaw did and pass an ordinance that says each homeowner is REQUIRED to have a loaded gun in the house! I guarantee a drop in crime....

Probably both good arguments. I don't know the legality but even having an such ordinance gives the impression that the population would abide by it regardless of the truth. I doubt thieves would know that everyone doesn't actually have a gun laying around the house, but the thought that they might just may be enough to make them rethink breaking in to find out. :D

As for home here, they are welcome to show up and see for themselves if they wish.


Yes, if you research the subject, you find that the ordinance is not really enforceable. But, imagine you are gonna rob a house, where do you think would be better for you to go? Somewhere where only the criminals have guns? Or Kennesaw where the city council has made it apparent that they are very friendly to gun owners, and have given the green light to everyone having a gun in their house? 

It's like Ann Coulter wrote in one of her books.  She was talking about being mugged in Washington DC (how can that be possible? Weren't guns banned in DC until recently?  But I digress...). She didn't WANT to have a gun, she just wanted the mugger to think she MIGHT have a gun.  But, of course, since she is a law abiding citizen, and was PROHIBITED from carrying a gun, he could be pretty sure she was unarmed, and was therefore PREY to him!

In fact, I would go so far as to say it is your DUTY to arm and defend yourself.  There are, I think, 300,000 Firearms License Holders in Georgia, out of a population of 9 million.  Not enough!!!

As for me, I didn't want to have to depend on someone near me being one of those license holders with a concealed (or openly carried) weapon when I needed them, so I went ahead and got my own license and firearms. 

It's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.

 



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ManinBlack wrote:
While I do believe that honest people should have the right to own guns.

 

Well I hope so.... I think there is an ammendment or something to that effect, right????



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mae0618 wrote: ManinBlack wrote:
While I do believe that honest people should have the right to own guns.

 

Well I hope so.... I think there is an ammendment or something to that effect, right????

There are some who don't accept that.....except for their bodyguards.:D



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ManinBlack wrote: mae0618, I am sure most of what you say is in jest. As we both know an ordinance is nothing but a piece of paper signed by a majority of the powers that be in hopes that they can control the general population with it. Ordinances are not Laws and are subject to a more difficult test in terms of enforcement. I have personally challenged more than one ordinance and been successful as most ordinances are not actually legal, only the opinion of a few.

While I do believe that honest people should have the right to own guns. (I have a few myself) the idea that an ordinance could be enacted and (enforced) that says that a person must have a (loaded gun) in their home is not something I would advocate. I do believe they have the ordinance, but I don't believe that they have ever tried to enforce it. If it is a deterrent, it would only be for those uninformed enough to think that whatever group passed this (ordinance) could or would for that matter try to enforce it. Big Joke.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,!!!!

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harleylady wrote: its a shame when we have armed robbers,  people  breaking into homes and business and all our city and county commissioners want to do is examples: new tennis courts; new layout for roads(Riverside's little stupid circle) increasing water rates (riverside ismostly elderly andthe average water billis 48.00 because they are charged Double rates!, voting in their mayor not the allowing, us, the People of Rome vote for this and as always using SPLOST money for anything they deem fit. Why can we not use some of the money to public safely? To enhance our police dept? give them the equipment that is needed to help fight in the increased crime that we our seeing.  oh that's right THE CRIME IS NOT IN THEIR NEIGHBOURHOOD

Actually we could reduce the crime rate by half and not have the city spend any money at all.... just do what Kennesaw did and pass an ordinance that says each homeowner is REQUIRED to have a loaded gun in the house! I guarantee a drop in crime....


An ordinance is a local law

§ 36-1-20.  Ordinances for governing and policing of unincorporated areas of county    (a) The governing authority of each county, for the purpose of protecting and preserving the public health, safety, and welfare, is authorized to adopt ordinances for the governing and policing of the unincorporated areas of the county, violations of which ordinances may be punished by fine or imprisonment or both. Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, such ordinances may provide for traffic regulation, including adoption of the uniform rules of the road under Chapter 6 of Title 40, may provide for the regulation and control of litter in the same manner as municipal ordinances under Code Section 16-7-48, and may provide for the implementation and enforcement of any power or duty vested in the county governing authority.

(b) Each such ordinance shall specify the maximum punishment which may be imposed for a violation of the ordinance; and in no case shall the maximum punishment for the violation of any such ordinance exceed a fine of $1,000.00 or imprisonment for 60 days or both; provided, however, that for violation of a pretreatment standard or requirement adopted pursuant to the federal Clean Water Act the ordinance may specify that the fine may be up to $1,000.00 per day for each violation by an industrial user.


Not to mention numerous other state statutes allowing counties and cities to adopt ordinances, I mean, I hate to continue to prove you wrong time and time again, but you usually are.



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Coolhead, if you are right, then you are right. No need to brag, or posture. If you know something then state it, back it up if necessary, but to gloat does you no good.
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Coolhead , Take any of these ordinances to Court and they will lose. An ordinance has now standing past the last two crooked guys who put their name on them. I have beat them time and time again. You are kid and should keep your mouth shut. You don't have a clue how to deal with a man like me.





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My sign reads, This house is protected 6 nights a week with a crazed man and a shotgun. You figure out his off night.



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